Daemon with level 150 BD with 0.5 sec regen

[FrostElfGuard]

I for one am very curious as to how this was created.

So I'll quote from my post in the SIF (to allow for cutting/pasting and editing...which is easier to do than flat out typing. ;) )

Lowering regen of BD:

a) Regen Spells (on items)
b) Meditation (maxed, plus with items?)
c) Hellpower (maxed, plus with items?)
d) boosted level of spell by equipment (ie, few runes read): each such boost incurss only 1/2 the normal regen penalty.
e) weapons/shield (or weapon/weapon) socketed to boost spell. Cast slot.
f) switch slots from cast slot to a REGEN spells slot... Spell regens at a lower rate--but with boosted regen from Regen spells.

Combine all this together, and you could be pushing out the blazing discs like crazy.

Now, what I'm wondering is: What is the max number of discs you can have going at one time? Is it 5? My daemon's discs are no where near as high powered, and it seems to me I lose a disc once I have max discs out.

Like Omi and Rianne, I do believe a public apology to Dags would be a good way to finish this.

--oh--most of my beginner guide comes from what I learned from Dags.

Cheers

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Postscript: Just thought of something. Likely this Daemon did not rely solely on drops. More likely is that items were shopped for--but not a daemon class character. More like another character (possibly with high natural charisma) with high Trade Skill. The maximum quality of items found at the shops is astounding --when you put the time into finding them.

Once found, such items are saved and reused by someone who has many accounts. (I have 5. And I shop and save. )

So, I'm hoping Dags will share more wisdom with us again. :)

[Rianne]

I've played 3 Daemons now - my highest is at level 156 I think.

My humble opinion is that compared to the other character classes, Daemon gear sux.

No spells or CA's on items other than sets and all class items. I've only ever found one unique item specificly for a Daemon (an Amulet) and the stats were pretty much useless.

I've had to mix and match the sets in order to have a viable Daemon in Niob.

No trade skill, I don't know why.

I also use other character rings and amulets to support my Daemon gear.

I really enjoy playing this class and she more than holds her own in Niob. But I wish I could find items for here like Dexters C for example which gives a huge bonus to specific CA's.

Rianne

[Dags]

I will give you a run down of my Daemon, but I have to go into Sacred to do it. The next time I'm in that particular account I will catalogue my goodies.

[Rianne]

Can't wait to see what you have.

I've found heaps of mighty rings and amulets for my other class toons but only one little amulet for my Daemon - stats were a joke.

Thx Dags

Rianne

[sinclsw007]

I find daemons pretty much stick to set gear. My favourite daemon gear is the Kleb-Dracad set; the full set bonus is immunity to poison :) . I fill in the outfit with something that gives + to battle daemon (for the boost to physical resists). For a magic user I prefer Solwemyr's staff socketed with the set rings.

[Rianne]

My point exactly. There is no choice but to use sets for a Daemon. Sets are the only items that add to Daemon specific spells and CA's.

You can't just go to Bravemart and buy gloves with +35 to Blazing disc. Or an amulet with +12 to Poison Nova.

Rianne

[FrostElfGuard]

My big Daemon died at 151... months ago...so I'm rusty on higher level daemons...

But... if charisma is boosted (after level 50 when points aren't so crucial) shouldn't the maximum quality at the shops go up?

Also: the Dwarf should help her out. I found when shopping as a Dwarf...most items are Dwarven...but some were Daemon (and very little for the other classes).

So a Dwarf should be able to help!

For myself...back then I was set crazy. Sets provide multiple attributes...so that was the way to go...

[Dags]

Ok my BD Daemon.

First thing to keep in mind is that this is a surface Daemon, I have had to make tradeoffs to get it where it is. For example its defence is laughable for a Daemon of this level as is its resistance levels.

Just about everything that all have posted in this thread is true to some extent, except for one thing, items that give maxed plus to the big three for a Daemon. By this I don't mean + to spell Regen or hell power or meditation. I mean one item (ring or Amy) that gives +to all skills. And items of apparel that have it as well.

When I started this toon I did so in my usual way except i had a different end result in mind.

I'll start from the beginning. When I build a toon I seldom allocate any skill or give out any atrib points untill I really have to and generally I can make it to level 50 at least before I do.

As many of you know at lvl 3 I run around (if I have found fast footwear) or ride a horse to get all the portals on the surface except Shaddar. Doing this allows me to keep my health bar alight almost all the time, which in turn boosts my SB. At this age I was wearing anything I could find or buy that had max slots, into which I socked only Blacksmith arts, for defence.

I allso started collecting certain items found or dumped by higher level toons, more on them later. Mainly because those pertinent to my build didn't come to me untill late gold and platinum then niob.

On the way up I found many set items that i would wear way past the level where they gave the max benefit, because I was looking for some different type of items. These items would be at the core of my build.

(I'll save this here because I have allready lost my post once and then continue it on for those that may be reading it as I go)

[Dags]

Bugger that's the second time I gave lost everything I have typed (knocked the mouse).

My BD Daemon continued:

Frosty you are right in that my build could not have succeed to where it has without help, but that help came in the form of dumps of higher level items on the island and only two interested me.

Steve, Sols staff is a must for a BD Daemon.

Rianne, sorry but there are other items out there that really help a BD Daemon build, but technically you are right about pure Daemon goodies.

Ok Frosty the two things that i was really interested in getting were, well three really, two rings of the Sols set, The Adornment of Virtue and the Deadly Band. The third item/s is what I wanted the most and that was any amy or ring that had + to all skills on it.

(Saving again)

[Dags]

My BD DFaemon continued:

This leads to what are probably the most important core components of my build.

Any piece of armour, set, gold, blue or white that had maximum slots. Of course along the way I have collected enough set peices to outfit it entirely in whatever I wanted, but I didn't want set pieces bar two for this build. Two peices of Klebs. One for hellpower and one for spell regen.

I Then concentrated on finding what I really wanted the most +to all skills, remember the big three for a BD Daemon are all skills. I have reached the point where every socket that doesn't have a sols ring in it has an amy or ring with minnimu, +25 to all skills. On top that some of the items I am wearing have +to skills as well.

The tradeoff is that this Daemon cannot get up in close and dirty with many baddies, though its inbuilt strengeth does help.

In short every single point I could allocate went into the big three and they are maxed to the point of being in the red, even if I take all my gear I cannot make any differecne to my points at this level.

So you see there is no big secret to my build. However do remember that like using a DE Hurons amy with a glad as an example there are many other types of toons goodies that you can use to better your character.

[FrostElfGuard]

Sols staff: a must because % of Mental Regen is added to Defense? Or for the regen? Or both? Is Staff fully outfitted (all three rings inside)?

+25 skills!!!/ slot?!!! Wow! Haven't seen any beyond +1.

[Dags]

Sols staff with full set of rings Frosty, for both benefits.

[Dags]

Can't wait to see what you have.

I've found heaps of mighty rings and amulets for my other class toons but only one little amulet for my Daemon - stats were a joke.

Thx Dags

Rianne

You probably allready know Rianne but you can socket other characters rings and amy's , providing you have the level requirement. I have toon that has only Berenics Soul Amy's socketed in every slot, excepr for a couple of Huron's. So there really is no need to rely on Daemon specific rings and amy's only.