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FrostElfGuard
09-20-2006, 06:27 PM
Rotluchs reported that he has play tested a level 200 vampiress with level 200 bats.

The bats are no longer viable. They cannot perform their functions at the higher levels.

Further he stated all the vampire arts are useless at the higher levels. Even Awaken Dead. (which of course is capped by the TiV timer).


Link From the SIF (http://forum.sacredeng.ascaron-net.com/showthread.php?p=371741&posted=1#post371741)

This leads me to wonder: Rotluchs, what vampire arts do you think are useful? Awaken Dead? Blood Bite? (these two would be my favourites I think, but not if they don't work at the "end" of her life (character level 200+)).


Imho? None.. there are absolutely no 'vampire-form-only' CA's/Spells that remain usefull up to high lvl chars (@ c-lvl plus s-lvl 200+)

Just grab one of those unskilled chars, do a little testing and see, how stats are changing each s-lvlup... no highlvl char needed to check this out.. i have never used these gimmick-CA's/Spells at a c-lvl over 60, exept for testing

Speaking for my Vamp c-lvl 216:

Making a Combo with all 3 bat-types (3x4 bats) + wolf might be usefull if you don't want to kill 2 or 3 outgreyed opponents with your vamp... maybe against these monsters your highlvl pets work fine, *narf*

forget about Blood Bite/Blood Kiss/Master Bite too..

the only thing left is Awaken Death, just another (more or less funny) gimmick to look at.. and if you're lucky (having +30 monsters 'resurrected') they might kill 3 or 5 orks or even a dragon (within approx 30 minutes, if your vampire-transformation is lasting long enough^^) :(

Soooo... what I'm getting out of this is that the Vampiress was never playtested as anything other than a fighter.

That's sad.

The only way to make this character type (summoner) viable would be Orla's spear or Fad's axe. Your summons basically act as triggers for sparks or fireballs.

Very sad indeed.

sinclsw007
09-20-2006, 07:44 PM
Well there go the runes I've put in Guard Bats :( ; still, at least Blood Kiss is good for triggering Fad fireballs ;) .

Omi
09-20-2006, 11:22 PM
My bats also do a lot of disarming, and so far no bug at all with that one. All the toons have their flaws, the challenge is to build a viable fighter in spite of them. What fun it is!